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Post by maryroze on Aug 7, 2009 15:57:18 GMT
Hiya,
I'm currently putting my bike back together quite a while after having taken it apart! I was hoping i could pick some brains on a few issues I'v got going on at the mo....
Should mention that I'm very much a newbie to all this so please excuse if I sound like i don't really know what I'm talking about (cos i don't).
Indicators, (I know it's only a 50, but i don't want to end up suv fodder in the rain) so....
I'm wiring in ox eye handle bar indicators, and wondering if any one has attempted to put 12 volt onto a 6 volt system as is, allowing the 12 v to charge and then drop to 6 v, continuously thus creating the flashing effect without having to wire in the other bits..... My plan is to have two switches so i can turn both on to create hazard lights too.
I an also concerned about a rattle between the mounting sleeve and the engine mounting bolt, do i need to replace this do i just leave well enough alone?
I really want to get this sorted so i can put the engine back into the frame hook up the fuel system and make sure it all works in that respect.
Then I'm going to be looking for advice about bumping the engine and putting in a new exhaust.....
If you have bothered to read this far and feel like sharing some knowledge then thanks in advance,
M
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Post by Juan on Aug 7, 2009 17:00:03 GMT
Hi and welcome.
I think the 100 Sport models used a hy-bred 6v and 12v system but don't quote me on that. Best place to look is on Scooterhelp in the wiring diagram section and we've more than a few who own Sports on here.
Secondly I'm not sure what you mean by the mounting sleeve, I assume you mean the rubber bush inside the swingarm section of the cases?
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Post by maryroze on Aug 7, 2009 17:55:35 GMT
Cheers for that
to be a bit more precisie...
It's the mounting sleeve inside the rubber bushings inside the swing arm.
the situation is when i slide the bolt into the mounting sleeve there seems to be a very small amount of play, ie it rattles a little bit. Maybe it's meant to be slightly loose but iv never seen another one to compare it to.
m
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Post by Juan on Aug 7, 2009 21:54:06 GMT
Well there should be a tiny amount but without seeing it firsthand it's hard to say if it's excessive or not. Presuming it is excessive make sure it is the correct bolt and if so then pack out a bit with grease. The bushes will wear out in time so that's another posability.
Even if they are it's not a hugely expensive job although it is something of a pain in the arse to do.
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stehughes
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Post by stehughes on Aug 7, 2009 22:03:05 GMT
I'm 99.9% sure that 100 Sports are purely 12v.
Maryroze, if I remember rightly you are in Ireland? Do you have similar testing like the MOT they do in the UK? It seems to me that a system like you describe for your indicators wouldn't pass. I could be wrong though... it has happened more often than not!
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Post by maryroze on Aug 8, 2009 17:38:53 GMT
Juan
" it's not a hugely expensive job although it is something of a pain in the arse to do"
Gotta agree with you on that one, which is why I'm really hoping its a "best well enough alone" kinda thing ; ) The rubbers are not perished and the movement is minor enough so unless some tells me other wise i think I'm going to take your advice pack it with grease and skip to the next bit... ;D
ETS (aka stehughes)
Many thanks for directing me over this way, but the bike in question is a 50 special not a "100 sports".
I have no knowledge of anything like a NCT (irish version of MOT) that applies to bikes (certainly not scooters) also as mine is a "classic" bike there is no requirement for indicators at all but i would feel better having some!
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stehughes
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Post by stehughes on Aug 8, 2009 17:55:40 GMT
ETS (aka stehughes) Many thanks for directing me over this way, but the bike in question is a 50 special not a "100 sports". I have no knowledge of anything like a NCT (irish version of MOT) that applies to bikes (certainly not scooters) also as mine is a "classic" bike there is no requirement for indicators at all but i would feel better having some! You're welcome. So much knowledge about our smallies over here... sometimes delivered with great humour too! I realise you have a 50 spesh but was just commenting on the suggestion that the 100 Sport is a 12/6 volt.  |
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Post by maryroze on Aug 8, 2009 19:11:42 GMT
Afraid I'v got a lot more to learn about scoots before i get the humour! I'm thinking of starting a contest called "name the part" the prize being my bike goes back together |
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stehughes
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Post by stehughes on Aug 8, 2009 19:58:20 GMT
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Post by maryroze on Aug 8, 2009 20:36:41 GMT
Yes I have  Downloaded quite a few bits from their site, would never have made it this far without them. |
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Post by maryroze on Aug 9, 2009 17:26:08 GMT
Progress ;D Check it out! img205.imageshack.us/img205/2439/engineo.jpgMy engine is no longer on the sitting room floor! Packing the swing arm with grease seems to have worked well but I'm going to replace the bolt as it is showing signs of wear and tear. While i had been intending to replace the bushings on the front shock I'm uncertain if this will be sufficient or if i should consider replacing the entire shock? The current one is original and so 30 years young! any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. |
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stehughes
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Post by stehughes on Aug 9, 2009 18:39:16 GMT
I was in the same situation with 30 year old shocks. My front felt a little weak before I stripped the scooter so I decided to replace them both. How did it feel before?
Good work getting the engine in. What have you done so far on the restoration? Engine rebuild?... new paint?... etc. Would be good to see more pictures of everything.
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Post by maryroze on Aug 9, 2009 19:36:02 GMT
Thankfully the bike was in pretty good nick no engine problems at all , but the frame needed work,( A wendsday bike I'v been told ; ) There was some reshaping of the front & welding to the bottom of the frame that needed to be taken care of, little things that were going to get worse i also needed to protect the frame from the "refreshing north Atlantic breeze" (ie dampness), and for me to learn about bikes! As this one was in pretty good shape and compared to other rebuilds not a lot of work it was a good one to start with, I guess i felt that the bike needed some TLC, and i wanted to be more sure when out riding it so it's a win win situation, the bike gets some much needed work and i get to learn I took the bike apart over three years ago and and between moving about, changing computers and somewhere along the line loosing one of my cameras i can't find imiages from the early stages of the process but i will keep looking. I guess what I'm wondering about the shocks is.... Is there a big difference in performance / suspension with new ones? is it worth playing more for aftermarket shocks or is the bounciness of the bike part of the character of a small frame? I am considering the sip front shock absorber (the rear one seems to be good) www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/65021000/Shock+absorber+front+V50V90.aspxI know i need a new exhaust but i want to install a "racing kit" and figured i need some advice as to what would work well without having to change the carburetor too  So far.....Body work - done sand blasting, stripping , panel beating, welding and a whole new paint job ;D electrics New wiring harness (a new one that "we" rebuilt!) New headlamp Indicators - half way there, also wiring in a brake light just for fun Replaced all the cables and have them running through the frame! Also new fuel line I haven't yet secured the headstock to finish the indicators as i want to get the front shock sorted fully so when it goes on it stays on! Meanwhile I'm sanding and painting the last of my trim myself! I think that's it... definitely the biggest learning curve I'v undertaken in quite a while (with a lot of help of course) |
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