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Post by cezeta on Feb 1, 2009 17:53:44 GMT
scootrs pipe for p2 whats it a copy of?
trying to identify its power style
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Post by Juan on Feb 1, 2009 18:26:00 GMT
I've not had one myself but those that have seem pretty happy with them for the money.
It's a copy of an old PM, they're ment to be pretty revvy with negligable torque.
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Post by cezeta on Feb 1, 2009 19:03:13 GMT
ok thats what i needed to hear, i had one on a t5/molossi and thought it was horrid. nothing then a powerband. changed to a sito plus and it went like the clappers. i was never sure if it was the pipe or the molossi or the combination. here is a good write up. im thinking either of the two rz ones but in stainless by jl. thought i should check the scoot rs one though for the money vintagescooters.free.fr/tuning/px200_exhaust/px200_exhaust.htm
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Post by Juan on Feb 1, 2009 22:45:06 GMT
Depends on your budget, tune and what you want. I know there's a re-vamped rhs JL on the market which is ment to be a lot better than the old one. Not sure if it comes in stainless though.
The B-race Dominator is a really good pipe on a low revving motor but it's a lhs system and you can't fit a spare with them if memory serves.
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Post by cezeta on Feb 2, 2009 16:51:57 GMT
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Post by cezeta on Feb 2, 2009 16:57:36 GMT
its for a 152l2 so no spare wheel but wheel changing and cable adjustment is still a concideration
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Post by shrew on Feb 2, 2009 17:09:01 GMT
Why stainless? They dont work as well as a steel pipe. They may not rust but you pay so much for something that is really defeating the object.
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Post by cezeta on Feb 2, 2009 19:40:35 GMT
i appreciate the theory but ive never seen proof that stainless pipes dont work infact ive seen dyno graphs that gave similar results with mild or stainless steel of the same pipe all be it a lambretta.
i would be interested to hear more on the subject though
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Post by sugarlump on Feb 2, 2009 19:49:00 GMT
I thought the only problem with stainless is the welds can be brittle giving a potential shorter life expectancy... I hope not cause I've got a spanking new devtour under me bed
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Post by cezeta on Feb 2, 2009 19:58:03 GMT
funny enough it was mb pipes that were compared
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Post by Juan on Feb 2, 2009 21:21:16 GMT
My understanding is that stainless and mild steel have different resonation qualities and heating properties. If these were taken into the equasion in the design process then there's no reason why one would out perform the other on the material front.
Personally I don't like stainless pipes as they are brittle by the nature of the steel but not any valid reason other than that. I don't do shiney. ;D
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Post by breezer on Feb 2, 2009 21:23:49 GMT
Biting my tongue boss
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Post by Juan on Feb 2, 2009 21:47:13 GMT
Okay, I'll conceed my head may reflect somewhat. ;D
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Post by breezer on Feb 2, 2009 21:49:18 GMT
I meant the OBVIOUS discussion that was bound to come re stainless mild blah blah blah baldy blah
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Post by sugarlump on Feb 2, 2009 21:54:53 GMT
Cezeta will matt black it anyways... ;D
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Post by shrew on Feb 2, 2009 23:44:21 GMT
Juan is right... resonance. Stainless cant resonate like mild. Thats why the top race bikes in any field use mild steel.. thin stuff too.. the trade off is noise though. Get the B n Q barby paint out fellas!
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Post by cezeta on Feb 3, 2009 8:52:29 GMT
bugger it, im going to make my own out of 6mm sheet plywood
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Post by me on Feb 3, 2009 9:03:03 GMT
you can get bendy MDF.....
I got a scootrs pipe on my T5 polini seems to have lots of torque pulls well in all gears. tops at about 75.
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Post by cezeta on Feb 3, 2009 9:10:34 GMT
dont be silly steve, mdf is not moisture resistant
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Post by me on Feb 3, 2009 9:20:33 GMT
Ahh, yea but if you made a few you can just keep changing them.... plastic coke bottles stuck together with sellotape is you next option, you would alos see when the pipe needed de-cokeing....!!! i do have the ideas....
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