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Post by mctavish on Mar 16, 2013 19:28:34 GMT
I'm a knob, I've bought the wrong PK stator  just realized the day when I tried to plug it in, it's the 5 wire version instead of 3, is there an easy way to modify it? I got it from Italy & I'm hoping there's a fix to save me trying to return it  |
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Post by firej on Mar 17, 2013 9:32:28 GMT
It depends , but you got the older version and the coils are wrapped differently for 5 wire and i have 2 bikes that have each version and they are very different.
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Post by firej on Mar 17, 2013 9:36:04 GMT
where did you get it from ? Ducati Energia
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Post by jonnysnatchsniffer on Mar 17, 2013 12:11:48 GMT
yeah you can swap the lighting coils from a non battery pk/px/t5
its only a 20 minute job if you have a donor stator
or (and i dont recomend it) is make sure all the coils are wound alternate clockwise/anticlockwise, can then make all the coils be in series by a little soldering with one end tapped to earth and the other end being the ac supply, but as the coils are wound varying thickness of wire id not be happy about that.
ive done it with lammy 6v points stators but its a bit heath and or hillary
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Post by mctavish on Mar 17, 2013 21:42:27 GMT
I've decided I'm gona return it for the right one, the way my lucks been going with parts I'd probably fuck it trying to modify it, just need tae google translate an email to the company & try no insult them in translation ;D
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Post by jonnysnatchsniffer on Mar 18, 2013 11:33:52 GMT
if you ask max nicely what you want to say hell be able to put it in italian that isnt gibberish, like google does
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Post by mctavish on Mar 26, 2013 13:03:37 GMT
confused.com exchanged the pk stator plate for the 3 wire version for a pk 50s & fitted it last night but the flywheel wont go over it  Not sure what to do next, think I'll need to get it modified to fit, I've no experience in electrics, can anybody recommend a company that will be able to sort it out for me? I've got the original 100 sport stator there, would there be enough pick-ups / coils to make one stator that will do the job? The pain in the tits frustrating thing about this is that I done the exact same conversion 20 odd years ago & had no problems at all, it was all just pug & play, PK 50 stator on to the 100 sport engine & it all fired up 1st kick |
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Post by firej on Mar 27, 2013 14:46:44 GMT
What's hitting? Or I guess rubbing is it due to the thicker coils I think early ones had skinny coils and that flywheel is lower .
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Post by mctavish on Mar 27, 2013 15:13:34 GMT
What's hitting? Or I guess rubbing is it due to the thicker coils I think early ones had skinny coils and that flywheel is lower . The flywheel is actually hitting the coils, the coils are set to far apart for the flywheel to slide over them, strange thing is I have what a think is a PK 50 flywheel in the garage & that don't clear the coils either, fookin strange I've ordered a soldering kit & I'll post some photos up & see if somebody can steer me in the right direction |
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Post by mctavish on Mar 27, 2013 21:16:22 GMT
This is what I've got, does anybody know if theres enough parts to build a stator thats going fit? ta    |
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Post by jonnysnatchsniffer on Mar 27, 2013 23:31:46 GMT
no, so sent that one back and get a stator for a pk50s/pk80s/pk125s
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Post by firej on Mar 28, 2013 5:21:40 GMT
Wrong stator man , that's the one I have on my Ape 50 its a 4 coil...
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Post by firej on Mar 28, 2013 5:43:48 GMT
I think I might know what your problems is, you know you need to add a CDI when going to a electronic stator that gets 3 of the wires just to run the ignition and then 3 wires to run the lighting, ground, power, break all which can be different colors...typically blue,black,yellow, are you sure your flywheel is also electronic? It should have two slim like magnet marks coming off of the larger magnets the spot lines up where the cam starts to get big this spot shoots over the pick up coil to make the spark happen... Hope this helps
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Post by mctavish on Mar 28, 2013 11:34:57 GMT
I think I might know what your problems is, you know you need to add a CDI when going to a electronic stator that gets 3 of the wires just to run the ignition and then 3 wires to run the lighting, ground, power, break all which can be different colors...typically blue,black,yellow, are you sure your flywheel is also electronic? It should have two slim like magnet marks coming off of the larger magnets the spot lines up where the cam starts to get big this spot shoots over the pick up coil to make the spark happen... Hope this helps cheers firej, yep I've got my head around the 3 wires going to the CDI & the other 3 going into the loom & the flywheel is electronic. The 1st stator I got, which said it was for a PK50s had the 3 wires going to the CDI but had 5 going to the loom which I assume has something to do with the electric start model, the 2nd stator was described as for a PK50s V5X2T, which is what I've got but the inside diameter of the flywheel off the 100 is smaller than outside diameter of the coils on the stator  The PK stator market is a feckin minefield  I will need to do some more research before I part with any more of my hard earned |
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Post by amazombi on Mar 28, 2013 12:33:38 GMT
Actually it isn't. There's some different types of stators, all of which will work with your flywheel and your crankcase. Apart from one. That's the one you have just now which will only fit the late PK 50 S with engine code V5X2T. As far as I remember even the cases are different where the stator sits.
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Post by mctavish on Mar 28, 2013 19:53:55 GMT
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Post by jonnysnatchsniffer on Mar 28, 2013 20:53:34 GMT
yes that ls the one you need from the look of the wiring in the photo, but as for its quality and reliability, and what make is it ? if indian id not bother, id only use ducati stators tbh
ive just done a conversion for someone with a 5 wire electric start stator, i took all the coils off apart from the lt coil and hall sensor and then took the coils off of a t5 stator (px non battery stators will do just fine aswell for the coils) and put them on the 5 wire stator
so keep the ducati 5 wire stator and blag a px/t5 stator and swap the coils over
or just use the brown wire for your ac supply, its only 2 coils worth tho so to run everything from them could cause them to fail
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Post by firej on Mar 31, 2013 21:54:37 GMT
That ones golden!
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Post by mctavish on Apr 12, 2013 7:46:40 GMT
We have spark!!!!!! ;D
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Post by firej on Apr 17, 2013 9:47:09 GMT
Sweet deal!
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just realized the day when I tried to plug it in, it's the 5 wire version instead of 3, is there an easy way to modify it? I got it from Italy & I'm hoping there's a fix to save me trying to return it 
