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Post by triffid on Feb 28, 2017 11:50:43 GMT
Has that clutch cover had a bit welded in or is it cracked Snails?
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Post by snails on Mar 1, 2017 11:05:23 GMT
Has that clutch cover had a bit welded in or is it cracked Snails? Ah. I had wondered at those marks on the clutch cover. If they are not supposed to be there then it does look like its been repaired! Looks like I need a replacement. Open to offers if anyone has one knocking around
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Post by snails on Mar 1, 2017 11:08:47 GMT
As for the rear hub not working I'm now wondering if the axle if through the bearing properly as when the 5 point hub is placed on it the spines on the hub dont go anywhere near the one's on the axle I probably need to reference an exploded diagram Does this look right?
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Post by triffid on Mar 1, 2017 11:15:16 GMT
I think I have a cover £10 posted OK for you?
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Post by snails on Mar 1, 2017 14:53:17 GMT
Hi Triffid.
That strikes me as very fair. Can you drop me a PM with your paypal (assuming you take it - if not bank account or address for cheque) and I'll bob the money over
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Post by vinrouge on Mar 1, 2017 18:33:59 GMT
As for the rear hub not working I'm now wondering if the axle if through the bearing properly as when the 5 point hub is placed on it the spines on the hub dont go anywhere near the one's on the axle I probably need to reference an exploded diagram Does this look right? Looking at some of the earlier photos on page 3, that axle looks the same as before and if the cases are closed then I'd say its fine. Are they the original brake shoes, photo's quite close but look on the large side to me, does the original hub fit?
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Post by triffid on Mar 2, 2017 8:50:29 GMT
If brake shoes were too big I think they would keep the hub further out Vin.
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Post by snails on Mar 2, 2017 11:52:07 GMT
Is this the original hub? It seems to fit fine. The problem with the five stud hub is that it goes to far towards the casing and bottoms out, rather than not travelling far enough, so I don't think the shoes are too big..
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Post by triffid on Mar 2, 2017 12:57:43 GMT
Check the inside of the hubs for the length of the shaft spigot, I was looking at an exploded diagram on SIP earlier and they look to be different lengths, maybe the 5 hub needs a spacer, though there was none shown on the diagram.
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Post by tzsteve on Mar 2, 2017 15:57:22 GMT
have you got a few old gaskets on the case / under the hub backplate? and is the backplate fully torqued up? and the case fully bolted together?
as any of these would stop the hub going all the way in till it met the bearing.
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Post by vinrouge on Mar 2, 2017 21:32:49 GMT
I was reading that couldn't get the hub onto the axle far enough though the shoes might be a factor I've never swopped over myself but I'm under the impression you need to swop the backplate and shoes
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Post by tzsteve on Mar 2, 2017 22:00:33 GMT
i did not read the post fully. the hub is going on? yes but going on too far? i think vinrouge is on the right track. have you lost track of what you started with or did you get a scoot as a box of bits? that can often cause some confusion
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Post by snails on Mar 4, 2017 21:29:38 GMT
Hi
Yes you are on the right lines Steve. Worked it out this morning after looking at the exploded diagrams on the SIP site and thinking that I should see why happens when I fit the original hub back on. My memory was that it was a V90 hub but I could not find it in my boxes of parts (the scoot was rolling when I got it) and I could never remember seeing the odd part that bolts into the middle of the hub when I was studying the diagrams. Searching my parts I did find several wheel rims.....including one with a tyre and hub...even then it hadnt quite clicked...I was thinking I have another spare hub....it was only after I'd removed the brake shoes from the plate and found that not to have any effect that I finally worked out that the hub I was trying to fit was different to the one of the wheel I found last night..anyway its all sorted now. I think the hub I was trying to fit must be a random other one from another type of Vespa!
This is what happens when you take years to do a rebuild and work on 3 scoots at once!
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Post by snails on Mar 4, 2017 21:30:50 GMT
This is it
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Post by snails on Mar 4, 2017 21:34:16 GMT
Next I need to work out why I cant bolt up my kickstart lever when its fitted to the shaft but it will bolt up when not fitted..very annoying and I cant work it out for the life of me. It will only fit on the splines in one position, and i Have spent some time trying to see if its just a knack - like when you get a set of keys for a door and have to learn how to wiggle them right - but I dont think its that either. Suggestions please!
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Post by Tiberius on Mar 4, 2017 21:41:46 GMT
That looks to be a PX hub.
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Post by vinrouge on Mar 5, 2017 13:54:26 GMT
Think the kickstart lever should fit in any position on the quadrant shaft, but only one will allow the bolt to pass through the cutout in the shaft. I've slightly opened the gap on the kickstart were the bolt passes through using a flat bladed screwdriver and very gentle pressure which has helped to seat the lever on the shaft
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Post by snails on Mar 7, 2017 8:43:09 GMT
Think the kickstart lever should fit in any position on the quadrant shaft, but only one will allow the bolt to pass through the cutout in the shaft. I've slightly opened the gap on the kickstart were the bolt passes through using a flat bladed screwdriver and very gentle pressure which has helped to seat the lever on the shaft Thanks for the answer. My kickstart will only fit in one position. If I try other positions the splines on the shaft will not match the matching cut out sections on the pedal. When its in that position the bolt passes through the pedal and will start to screw into it but after about one full 360 turn it starts to feel like the thread is being stripped and it just spins, tightens up again and then goes loose. To me it feels more like the pedal part where the bolt passes through needs to be compressed rather than forced further apart. If I try to fit the bolt into the pedal when not fitted to the kickstart shaft it will screw all the way in, so its definitely an issue to do with the kickstart shaft cutout, just dont know what. Here are some photos in case they throw any light on the matter This is the only position it will fit on
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Post by triffid on Mar 7, 2017 9:04:24 GMT
Looks like that isn't the correct kickstart Snails, should be much closer together when on the shaft. Is it an aftermarket one?
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Post by snails on Mar 7, 2017 13:43:31 GMT
Possibly. I've always had this issue - from the first moment I tried to get it running after I purchased. From memory the kick start I was using back then - that came with the scoot in the parts - was also p200 or PX. Then the spring slipped and I decided to strip the engine. I thought I'd binned that one off and replaced but that was a few years ago...maybe I'm wrong. Might have to check the ex wifes garage for one I saw in there (maybe thats the correct one) or failing that purchase another. Thanks for that I'll move on for now. Next job is stripping the forks for the spindles but I've hit a bit of a snag on that too. Will update if cant get around that!
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